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More excerpts from Trump’s NYT interview: Incoherence & narcissism

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If you don’t have the time or patience [or stomach] to read the entire, word-for-word transcript of Donald Trump’s interview with the New York Times, allow me to help. Here are some additional excerpts [I posted others yesterday], guaranteed to make you scratch your head in wonder at the man’s short-attention-span thinking and his narcissism. The excerpts I’m including have not received much media attention, because they’re not Tweet-ishly succinct. But they’re equally important, because they reveal a lot about this man’s perspective and his wandering focus.

Here’s an excerpt from Trump’s opening remarks.The New York Times gave him about 10 minutes of unstructured time in which to say whatever he wanted to before answering specific questions. In this section, he is talking about his intention to “bring the country together” after a “vicious” election.

TRUMP: What we do want to do is we want to bring the country together, because the country is very, very divided, and that’s one thing I did see, big league. It’s very, very divided, and I’m going to work very hard to bring the country together.

I mean, I’m somebody that really has gotten along with people over the years. It was interesting, my wife, I went to a big event about two years ago. Just after I started thinking about politics.

And we’re walking in and some people were cheering and some people were booing, and she said, you know, ‘People have never booed for you.’

I’ve never had a person boo me, and all of a sudden people are booing me. She said, that’s never happened before. And, it’s politics. You know, all of a sudden they think I’m going to be running for office, and I’m a Republican, let’s say. So it’s something that I had never experienced before and I said, ‘Those people are booing,’ and she said, ‘Yup.’ They’d never booed before. But now they boo. You know, it was a group and another group was going the opposite.

Yeah, it’s all about the booing.

Here’s another excerpt. In it, Trump responds to a question about climate change:

TRUMP: You know the hottest day ever was in 1890-something, 98. You know, you can make lots of cases for different views. I have a totally open mind.

My uncle was for 35 years a professor at M.I.T. He was a great engineer, scientist. He was a great guy. And he was … a long time ago, he had feelings — this was a long time ago — he had feelings on this subject. It’s a very complex subject. I’m not sure anybody is ever going to really know. I know we have, they say they have science on one side but then they also have those horrible emails that were sent between the scientists. Where was that, in Geneva or wherever five years ago? Terrible. Where they got caught, you know, so you see that and you say, what’s this all about. I absolutely have an open mind. I will tell you this: Clean air is vitally important. Clean water, crystal clean water is vitally important. Safety is vitally important.

And you know, you mentioned a lot of the courses. I have some great, great, very successful golf courses. I’ve received so many environmental awards for the way I’ve done, you know. I’ve done a tremendous amount of work where I’ve received tremendous numbers. Sometimes I’ll say I’m actually an environmentalist and people will smile in some cases and other people that know me understand that’s true. Open mind.

So, Trump is an environmentalist because he built some “great, great, very successful golf courses,” and he had an uncle.

Finally, here is Trump’s take on his strategy late in the campaign:

TRUMP: …the numbers are coming out far beyond what anybody’s wildest expectation was. I don’t know if it was us, I mean, we were seeing the kind of crowds and kind of, everything, the kind of enthusiasm we were getting from the people.

As you probably know, I did many, many speeches that last four-week period. I was just telling Arthur that I went around and did speeches in the pretty much 11 different places, that were, the massive crowds we were getting. If we had a stadium that held — and most of you, many of you were there — that held 20,000 people, we’d have 15,000 people outside that couldn’t get in.

So we came up with a good system — we put up the big screens outside with a very good loudspeaker system and very few people left. I would do, during the last month, two or three a day. That’s a lot. Because that’s not easy when you have big crowds. Those speeches, that’s not an easy way of life, doing three a day. Then I said the last two days, I want to do six and seven. And I’m not sure anybody has ever done that. But we did six and we did seven and the last one ended at 1 o’clock in the morning in Michigan.

And we had 31,000 people, 17,000 or 18,000 inside and the rest outside. This massive place in Grand Rapids, I guess. And it was an incredible thing. And I left saying: ‘How do we lose Michigan? I don’t think we can lose Michigan.’

And the reason I did that, it was set up only a little while before — because we heard that day that Hillary was hearing that they’re going to lose Michigan, which hasn’t been lost in 38 years. Or something. But 38 years. And they didn’t want to lose Michigan. So they went out along with President Obama and Michelle, Bill and Hillary, they went to Michigan late that, sort of late afternoon and I said, ‘Let’s go to Michigan.’

It wasn’t on the schedule. So I finished up in New Hampshire and at 10 o’clock I went to Michigan. We got there at 12 o’clock. We started speaking around 12:45, actually, and we had 31,000 people and I said, really, I mean, there are things happening. But we saw it everywhere.

…And I thought we were going to win it. And we won it, we won it, you know, relatively easily, we won it by a number of points. Florida we won by 180,000 — was that the number, 180?

For Trump, it’s not about a message or a plan: It’s all about the crowds, the adulation, and the sound system..This is what he chooses to talk about with the New York Times, in hopes of impressing them.

I wonder if, after seeing this transcript, Trump will ever again agree to a completely on-the-record interview. I hope he does, but I have my doubts. On the other hand, he is so delusional about himself that he probably thinks this interview went extremely well and that he won over [or snowed] the New York Times with his bullshit.

Frightening.

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Gloria Shur Bilchik is a freelance writer and community volunteer in St. Louis, Missouri. She is the editor of Occasional Planet. She views the preservation of democratic values and progressive programs as vital to making the US a humane, livable place for her children and grandchildren.


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  • And someone actually voted for this guy to be president?

  • YVONNE L LEWIS

    Donald Trump’s supporters are going to realize that he is a con artist. I’m waiting for him to be impeached, and it looks like he is off to a good start with all of his businesses.

  • J Hixon

    Unfortunately , Trump’s supporters won’t realize anything. They will continue to “blame” Democrats for the mess that is coming our way. There is nothing reasonable about his supporters.

  • Just Tea

    very sad

  • Tony Caroselli

    “because we heard that day that Hillary was hearing that they’re going to lose Michigan, which hasn’t been lost in 38 years. Or something. But 38 years.”

    Thirty-eight is not a multiple of four, Drumpfer. Try 28 years. Which gets you 1988. Which is, in fact, the last time Michigan went for the Republican.

  • dailyllama

    By most standards this is certifiable bullshit and yet we weep-on and the laughter fades out across the footlights …

  • Cynthia RN

    It’s not only that he’s mentally ill. The worst of it is that he remains untreated.

  • Michelle Wardley

    and people actually voted him in as a leader?…….into the top job?
    I can’t fathom the reasons why…. Did they all think they were getting a personal cheque to make them “rich”? I’m still flabbergasted….

    It won’t be long until those voters will be begging for President Obama to come back. Atleast he has a personality, heart, spirit & soul!

    DEFINITELY NOT A PRESIDENT! #NOTAPRESIDENT

  • Michelle Wardley

    too sad…..

  • mdhome

    We are SO screwed!