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Comments on: Lincoln and the socialist roots of the Republican Party https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/ Progressive Voices Speaking Out Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:13:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: For Lincoln and Liberty Too: The Hutchinson Family Singers and Social Reform on the eve of the Civil War | The Late Unpleasantness: A Civil War Blog https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-17697 Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:13:11 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-17697 […] may come as a surprise to some that the early Republican Party had a very strong Socialist tinge to it. The early Utopian colonies that popped up around the early […]

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By: DemandSider2 https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-17442 Sat, 18 Nov 2017 07:52:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-17442 In reply to Brian Rustle.

“We will be all one thing, or all another”.

-Lincoln on the dangers of labor arbitrage and outsourcing.

Lincoln was just an adherent of classical economics, and an opponent of the South’s, putative “free trade” feudalism. Sadly, we have no proponents of The American School of economics in government, today, so we’ll continue to decline for the foreseeable future.

“General William T. Sherman, an acute observer of the war, had predicted this development even before Sumter, telling a rebel acquaintance in late 1860:

“The North can make a steam-engine, locomotive or railway car;
hardly a yard of cloth or a pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical and determined people on earth–right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared. . . . At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, and shut out from the markets of Europe by blockade as you will be, your cause will begin to wane.”

Stephen B. Oates, ed. The Whirlwind of War: Voices of the Storm, 1861-1865 (1999) p. 46 from Sherman letter of Dec 1860

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By: Brian Rustle https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-17431 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:53:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-17431 In reply to demand_sider.

1. Outside of their colonial issues, the homestead acts gave labor access to land so they could work without needing to be waged-workers working for someone else. Did you even read Lincoln’s arguments?

Which is the whole point of socialism/communism. We want to be workers free of Capital/Capitalism, to benefit ourselves from our work together, not to benefit absentee “owners” who do no work.

2. What? Yes, Socialist/Communist agree we should publicly offer the best skills training to help people work for themselves better. Land Grant Colleges are a great example of socialist/communist pedagogy and education.

It’d be better if everyone had guaranteed access to them like they used to.

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By: The Way We Were at Faith and Heritage https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-7103 Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:46:08 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-7103 […] Lincoln’s revolutionary, socialistic, and never-ratified 14th amendment inverted the purpose and meaning of the federal constitution […]

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By: The Donald | kaylalynngreen https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-6908 Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:12:22 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-6908 […] highlights the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of today’s Republican Party.  Abraham Lincoln would hang his head in […]

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By: The Mad Jewess https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-6746 Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:10:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-6746 In reply to Frank.

Can you refute this?

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By: America’s Republican Party Established by Socialists? | patricknelson750 https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-6629 Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:11:39 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-6629 […] was bowled over to read an article that suggests just this (as well as this one and this one). Apparently back in the 1850s various early figures in the Republican Party had […]

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By: demand_sider https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-6601 Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:05:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-6601 In reply to Frank.

1) The Homestead Act

2) Land grant colleges

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By: Why do progressives attempt to paint the Confederates as rightwingers? - Page 15 - US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum https://occasionalplanet.org/2011/12/16/lincoln-and-the-socialist-roots-of-the-republican-party/#comment-6132 Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:32:53 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=13226#comment-6132 […] […]

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