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Comments on: Men having access to Viagra violates my religious beliefs https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/ Progressive Voices Speaking Out Tue, 02 May 2017 22:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: pkt rkt https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-16970 Tue, 02 May 2017 22:57:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-16970 In reply to Michelleangeli.

I was just reading on wiki that the Catholics say if you masterbate once you go to hell for eternity. What a joke of a religion.

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By: Gina C https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-6532 Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:50:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-6532 In reply to Poppy.

Excellent contribution to the conversation. Good for you. thanks.

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By: alex https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-6456 Mon, 22 Sep 2014 03:30:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-6456 I do recall that certain catholic teachings are that sex is for conception and not for pleasure.

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By: WJ Alden https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-6342 Wed, 02 Jul 2014 05:22:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-6342 “Therefore, we demand that the federal government exempt the thousands of hospitals and educational institutions owned by our religious order from having to provide ED drugs…”

Please name your religious order, and list below the “thousands of hospitals and educational institutions” owned by said order.

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By: Being human https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-6278 Fri, 21 Mar 2014 03:39:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-6278 This is exactly why we have separation of church and state. Unfortunately, religious people always try and get around the laws because their religious beliefs tell them to. It’s sad that in this day and age people are still believing in the Bible.

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By: Poppy https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-2742 Sun, 07 Apr 2013 12:08:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-2742 Great satire. As a confirmed Roman Catholic married for over 40 years “in the Church” I am appalled at the incredible ignorance of Church Leaders (celibates) in sexual matters and its place in marriage as the bonding glue that holds a couple together. I’ve watched dozens of Roman Catholic marriages fail causing great pain to children and parents because of the sexual repression that is taught in Roman Catholic circles and reflected in dysfunctional relationships that are doomed to failure by such teaching. They haven’t a clue as to what is “normal” and what is “human” and remain uninformed and stubbornly adamant that they are right. They teach celibacy and abstinence as preferential to loving physical and emotional relationships. No wonder so many Catholic marriages fail. What they teach is mysogynistic and a corruption of God’s Word.

As far as a woman using birth control excommunicating herself, let me remind Michelleangeli that “Let no MAN put asunder that which God has joined together” and that the harshest judgement will be applied to the “teachers” of dogma and church policy that is contrary to God’s Word. Also, during Pope John XXIII’s Eccumenical Encyclical not only did the RCC embrace Protestants after centuries of declaring them as doomed souls, it left it to married couples to decide in their own conscience regarding matters of birth control and did not dictate that birth control was wrong. Jesus Christ predicted in his own words that the devil will rise to the highest levels of the Church. Do you not see that the whole of the RCC can be compared to the money changers in the temple? Stop believing what you are told to believe and educate yourself as to what you should believe. God’s Plan is obvious. People and Nations that do not have control of their birth rate live in terrible poverty and it cannot be attibuted to war but to the inability of the region to support the population…duh! I’m no materialist, but I’ll not see children suffer in order to obey dogma by celibates that profess to know what is best for married couples and I’ll not let our loving relationship go to hell either.

Out of a Maid of Honor and three bridemaids, only one is still married today. All of them are confirmed Roman Catholics and all are good people, as are their former husbands. The reason that one couple and my wife and I are still together? We rejected the dogma of the RCC with regards to our relationship and tried to follow the teaching of Jesus Christ as WE understood it.

If the Virgin Mary was to approach the RCC with Joseph to marry today, she would be turned away because she was pregnant before she was married. It doesn’t get any more judgemental (emphasis on “mental”) than that. No wonder Protestants broke away from the Church. I suggest you read about the various levels of intimacy and how sexual relationships increase bonding between humans assuring their survival as a couple and the survival of their offspring. Abstinence weakens the bond to the detriment of the couple and the children. Moreover, Mother Nature (also known as “God’s Plan”) saw a need to diversify the human genome with a wide spectrum of individuals with talents unlike those of heterosexual women and men in order to better assure the survival of the species. The birth rate possible amongst the heterosexuals maintains the population just fine and the contribution of the non-heterosexuals helps assure everyone’s survival, including the adoption of orphaned children.
With surrogacy and insemination, the human popualtion continues to diversify, again assuring its survival.

That is God’s Plan for human beings.

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By: Michelleangeli https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-2272 Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:07:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-2272 This is not only another Sacrilegious attack on the Catholic Church but obviously written by someone who hasn’t a clue about Church teaching. Go figure! If a Catholic woman uses birth control or has an abortion she has excommunicated herself…sadly most of them have no clue about Catholic teaching themselves. 

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By: Helen https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-2263 Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:17:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-2263 This is not male bashing.  It’s only treating men like they want to treat women.  This should be required reading for all men who want to ban contraception & abortion.
The Catholic church has lost many members because of divorce.  If they excommunicated women who used birth control or had an abortion their pews would be nearly empty on Sunday.
Good Work  Madonna! 

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By: MG1 https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-2259 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:18:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-2259 In reply to EpsilonSemi.

Thank you for your comment. However, I am surprised that you
mistake my post for male bashing.  It
is a post on women bashing by traditional religious groups—such as the
hierarchy of the Catholic Church and various evangelical, Dominionist, and
other fundamentalist sects and denominations—and the conservative politicians,
male and female, who are working hard to enshrine their misogyny into law.

 

I wrote about real views actually held by religious
conservatives and the Catholic hierarchy about women. I simply reversed the sex
of the “hierarchy,” replacing men with women, to expose the flagrant misogyny
at the heart of these institutions. 
And yes, the hierarchy of these institutions is male—as was the all male
panel recently convened in the House by Republicans to discuss women’s use of
contraception.

 

The fact that men cannot get vasectomies or ED drugs at
Catholic hospitals, while making life difficult, does not constitute a crisis in
male reproductive health. There is, however, a real crisis in women’s health
care with ongoing and escalating right wing efforts to shut down Planned
Parenthood, limit women’s access to contraception, well-woman exams, pre-natal
care, and of course, abortion. Trying to mandate a medically unnecessary invasive trans-vaginal
ultrasound in order to get an abortion is the latest step in this rampant
misogyny. This ongoing religious and Republican led war on women is based on
religious ideas that assume women do not have a right to control their own
bodies or their reproductive capacities. 

 

Unlike men having trouble getting ED drugs or a vasectomy,
women not having access to contraception or abortion or pre-natal care can be
life threatening. For example, right now, Catholic hospitals can refuse to
perform an abortion to save a woman ‘s life. Not having access to contraception
leaves women vulnerable to unwanted pregnancies. Your complaints, while
legitimate, pale in comparison to what women are facing.    

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By: Barbara https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/02/23/men-having-access-to-viagra-is-against-my-religious-beliefs/#comment-2258 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:50:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=14789#comment-2258 Madonna, you nailed it!!!  

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