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Comments on: Blue-state secessionist https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/ Progressive Voices Speaking Out Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:24:50 +0000 hourly 1 By: Spudz https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2597 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:41:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2597 Starng how the above map was published in July 2012, and the november election was EXACTLY the same. Perhaps the popular mass media, had already elected the president in july, BEFORE the common man had a chance to voice their opion and cast their vote….

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By: charmed https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2485 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2485 Oh, I do not mean to denigrate communists, please study their methods of gaining control!!!  Extremely valuable!  Study their tactics!!

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By: charmed https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2484 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:42:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2484 Well, we know that Communism has failed, so we need to continue the march towards Fabian Socialism.  Only by soaking the rich will we prosper!

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By: Sidney18511 https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2432 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 20:03:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2432 Maybe when the redstate patriots find themselves living under their crumbling bridges with their uneducated hungry children and the only jobs available pay $3.00/hr, they will put down their “don’t tread on me” flags and realize that they have been played for fools. But…maybe not.

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By: Thomas Ware https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2428 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:04:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2428 My as yet unpublished book (amongst others) is Where The Salmonberry Grow, Cascadia, A Place Apart. Neither of the Pacific nor of the North “American” but rather the rubble, the detris, built up over millions of years of collision twixt the two, where our waters run to sea through the Northern Hemisphere’s only “temperate” rainforest, and those waters are Kool-Aid free.

There is nothing east of The Rocky Mountains we need.

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By: Pluege https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2427 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:41:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2427 a lot to be said for it.

Aside from not being subject to their constant idiocy, the best part would be for blue staters to stop subsidizing the morons in red states while they rail against my blue state tax dollars subsidizing them. I’d be more than happy for my New Jersey 33 cents of every federal tax dollar to stop going to the suckling red states. See how much they miss blue stater ‘national community’ and ‘we’re all in this together’ ways then. 

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By: Bluestocking https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2426 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:34:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2426 In reply to Licens2kill2000.

How long would it take, do you think, for some of the former red states to petition for foreign aid from the US government?  I actually don’t think it would take very long…maybe no more than two or three years.

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By: Phil Martin https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2425 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:20:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2425 Have you ever been to Delaware or Maine? Reading this, I have my doubts…

This red/blue divide has a fractal pattern – if you drew the map by district instead of state, and then by neighborhood instead of district, and then by household instead of neighborhood, and then by individual instead of household, and then by issue instead of individual, you’d see that you’re not in a bubble, and you never will be.

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By: Bluestocking https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2424 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:50:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2424 I recently informed a red-stater on another site that if they should ever become sufficiently fed up to consider seceding, I’d be more than happy to let them go it alone and see how well they do…but that unless they want civil war (and I think some of them actually do), one thing they’d better be prepared to do is either purchase or surrender all the military equipment that is housed in their state.  That stuff belongs to the US government…it isn’t theirs.

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By: Hemlock5200 https://occasionalplanet.org/2012/07/02/blue-state-secessionist/#comment-2423 Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:44:00 +0000 http://www.occasionalplanet.org/?p=16760#comment-2423 Disagreeing with right wingers, bigots, gun nuts, etc. is just part of the deal that comes with democracy.  I can live with that.  The distribution of expenditures will differ from the distribution of tax burdens in every nation, and even a reformed nation of New England.  I can live with that too.  What does matter, though, is the way economic flows might change.  In 1776, our founding fathers were aiming the Declaration of Independence at the rule of King George III, but the separation they really wanted was from the British merchants systematically stripping wealth from the colonies.  Similarly, we’re not happy with Washington in large measure because it is massively corrupt and it lends its power to corporations who are also stripping away the wealth from our communities.  I am vigorously in favor of erecting barriers to national and international corporations.

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